fake 60, real 60 or real 80 watt upgrade?

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fred ungewitter
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Re: fake 60, real 60 or real 80 watt upgrade?

Post by fred ungewitter » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:57 pm

That's a good point. I had measured the mounts and can go as high as 63 mm diameter but that would be with minimal "cushioning," as in direct steel contact with the tube. Chop a mm off for a layer of tape, but with anything in the fifties, I can put back some of the high density foam wrap originally in place.
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Redsail clone 60w 700 x 500 REAL 60w Puri tube
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Re: fake 60, real 60 or real 80 watt upgrade?

Post by Michael Dunning » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:48 pm

My plan has been to go with Russ' mounts for a while now anyway. I'm not sure what your mounts look like but mine are sorely lacking in the adjustability department, much less the quality of the "installation" job at the factory.

If you'd like, I can just order enough to make two sets and split the cost?
EBay Chinese 60W (45W actual) laser cutter, 700x500mm, (TR)
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fred ungewitter
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Laser Machine Make or Type: Redsail Clone
Laser Power: 60W
Laser Bed Size: 500 x 700
Home Position: TR
RDWorks Version: 8.01.18
Accessories: Chuck style rotary, 30 ma meter, home-spun office water cooler mod, muffin fan anti-condensate blower
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Re: fake 60, real 60 or real 80 watt upgrade?

Post by fred ungewitter » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:57 pm

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The clamps shown in the photo above are inverted, as the smaller diameter shaft drops into a recess in the main mount on the deck of the machine, in back. The threaded portion fits into a recess as well, while the hex nut provides for vertical adjustment with quite good precision. I've added the extensions shown, because the locking bolt in the bottom of the support was engaging at the very edge of the smaller diameter shaft. At least now, there's more metal to engage and perhaps the new laser tube will require adjustment to move the intersection of the two pieces clear of the bolt.

The extensions are about 25mm long and I think I meant to make them 15mm but can't find my notes. When/if I order the tube, I'll be able to unthread the extension, cut to length and re-attach.

What mounts has Russ created? I must have missed that class. I'd like to see his work, but I don't think I'll need to order a set, as these are working well and I'd probably design and build my own 3D printed mounts if they didn't work. Now that I write this, I might have seen his work and felt the same way at the time.

There's some satisfaction to be had from designing and building a solution to a problem or project. I expect that many or most of us feel that way, or else we wouldn't be here!
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Redsail clone 60w 700 x 500 REAL 60w Puri tube
home upper right, chuck type rotary 15000 pulse setting
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Re: fake 60, real 60 or real 80 watt upgrade?

Post by Dave Harris » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:40 pm

Fred, What did you decide to do?

I had my mind set on upgrading my tube to an 80w Reci from Light Object, however it seems they are having customer service issues.
I ordered a beam splitter from Light Object, and never received it. I have tried repeatedly to contact them via email, phone. No response. Bummer!

I may give Laser Tube Depot a shot their 60 and 80 watt tubes looks promising.

Seems to me the 10,000 hour tube is a far better value, except for the additional expense of the power supply and tube mounting.

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Re: fake 60, real 60 or real 80 watt upgrade?

Post by Doug Fisher » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:02 am

If you mean Laser Depot USA, a Google search on that name is interesting.
80 Watt 700mm x 500mm Ke Hui KH-7050 Laser (Similar to the Red Sail),T.R.
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fred ungewitter
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Laser Machine Make or Type: Redsail Clone
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Home Position: TR
RDWorks Version: 8.01.18
Accessories: Chuck style rotary, 30 ma meter, home-spun office water cooler mod, muffin fan anti-condensate blower
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Re: fake 60, real 60 or real 80 watt upgrade?

Post by fred ungewitter » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:51 am

I went with a real 60w Puri tube from laser depot, which arrived last week. I don't move fast or continuously on anything, but managed to get it wired up yesterday. It extends about 6" from the cabinet, which isn't too bad. I had expected ten inches. It was also packaged quite well. The box was almost six feet long and three times the width and depth of the tube box inside. I discovered that it's foolish to open a box in the middle when that box is filled with packing peanuts.

All that remains before "first light" is to install the UV sanitizer into the water system and begin alignment. My previous efforts with the reverse red laser point seems to have paid off, as with minor adjustments to mirror one, the red dot is centered on the tape over the end of the big laser tube. I'm hoping the forward direction goes as well.
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Redsail clone 60w 700 x 500 REAL 60w Puri tube
home upper right, chuck type rotary 15000 pulse setting
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Re: fake 60, real 60 or real 80 watt upgrade?

Post by Lorne Popowich » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:50 am

I think after doing the Google Search, suggested by Doug, that I would stay away from Laser Depot USA.
The creek link told the story.
Good catch Doug.
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fred ungewitter
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Laser Machine Make or Type: Redsail Clone
Laser Power: 60W
Laser Bed Size: 500 x 700
Home Position: TR
RDWorks Version: 8.01.18
Accessories: Chuck style rotary, 30 ma meter, home-spun office water cooler mod, muffin fan anti-condensate blower
Windows Version: Windows 7

Re: fake 60, real 60 or real 80 watt upgrade?

Post by fred ungewitter » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:27 pm

I suppose I'm lucky to have received a product, shipped rather quickly. The next point of concern will be to light it up and hope the warranty will not be needed.
fred

Redsail clone 60w 700 x 500 REAL 60w Puri tube
home upper right, chuck type rotary 15000 pulse setting
RDW 8.01.18
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BCN3D Sigma Dual Extruder 3d printer
LMS Mini-mill
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Re: fake 60, real 60 or real 80 watt upgrade?

Post by Dave Harris » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:07 pm

Yes, I did mean Laser Depot USA.

Hope it works good.

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Re: fake 60, real 60 or real 80 watt upgrade?

Post by Dave Harris » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:05 pm

I contacted Light Object again today, and they sent me confirmation and tracking for my beam splitter,
I guess they were just having a rotten week.

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My Name is David Harris and I am located in southern California. I own a 700x500 60 watt Red Sail clone laser that defaults to upper left, the software version is RD Works version 8.01.18

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